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Bell & HowellFilmo 75 (Field Model)

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c1928-1933. 16mm film, cine camera. Metal case with patterned leather. Spring motor: 16 frames per second. Marketed as a "Ladies Camera"

Bell & Howell: Filmo 75 (Field Model) camera

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Date
Condition Price
 2006-11-18
 B
 $365
 2003-02-28
 B
 $199
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by John Kratz » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:12 am

The camera pictured (my camera) under "Field Model" is not a field model. The field model actually says "Filmo Field Model" (without "75") on the nameplate. Mine say "Filmo Model №75".

I'm also confused about all the different Filmo 75 models listed on the B&H page (75A, 75A4, 75C etc). As far as I know, there is only one Model 75, and the Field Model variation of it. Am I missing something somewhere?

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by diser » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:41 am

Let me review this after I get back home. I am not sure where the indication is coming from, but there is an indication somewhere.
For example check this ones out. "A 4".
https://www.kameradatenbank.de/index.ph ... ect_id/256
https://www.kameradatenbank.de/index.ph ... ect_id/245
https://www.kameradatenbank.de/index.ph ... ect_id/675

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by John Kratz » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:50 am

Interesting. I noticed a couple of those examples had different winding keys, yet they're all called "A4". I wonder if the color has something to do with it. They did come in three colors...

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by diser » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:58 am

Date of manufacture has something to do with it
http://wichm.home.xs4all.nl/cinelist.html#B

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by John Kratz » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:18 pm

That's an interesting list - thanks for the link!
Apparently based on the "Ariel Cinematographica Register". Unfortunately the complete set costs $850... :(

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by Luvantique » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:58 am

Some of the posted price sources are bad, as they represent (long) ongoing asking prices, not actual sales. The sales history for this camera runs pretty consistently between $100 and $200. Two of the listings posted here are for the same camera, the second with a price reduction from $499 to $399. There is no sales history in the $400 range, but many are posted at that asking price and more. It should be apparent from the sales referenced here that those are fruitless efforts. Part of the problem may be that people are checking with Collectiblend and getting faulty information.

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by Luvantique » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:08 pm

No, the Filmo 75 model designation was made according to the kit and type of lens supplied. Here is the chart, including original price:

75-A 20mm f3.5 fixed focus $ 92.00
75-A-1 20mm f/3.5 fixed focus, w/case $ 99.50
75-A-2 20mm f/3.5 focusing, w/case $109.50
75-A-3 1-inch f1.8 focusing, w/case $134.50
75-A-4 1-inch f/1.8 KCF w/case $149.50
75-A-5 20mm f3.5 fixe focus, parallax finder $118.00

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by Madd10 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:30 am

Hello Luvantique,

There are only two data points that is why the prices are high.

On Ebay prices are also often lower compared to official auctions. Approved collectiblend members can add their own sales data (including source) and increase the pricing accuracy.

Kind regards.

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by Luvantique » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:20 am

My point was that the data points appear to be coming from open, fixed price offers, not actual sales. Only completed sales are valid as price points. The open ebay listings should not be permitted in the sales history.

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by Madd10 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:01 am

The two entries should be actual sales data

The 2006-11-18 B $365 sale is a recorded Westlicht sale
The 2003-02-28 B $199 sale was a recorded Photographica World price

(The icons refer to the actual source) WL= WestLicht; PW= Photographica World

Admittedly these data are very old and there are only 2 data points. There is a higher accuracy for camera models that have more and more recent sales data, it is therefore always prudent to check Ebay sales certainly for cameras that come up for sale quite often. Collectiblend prices are not always that accurate but at least provide some guidance in addition to other price sources. With time and if members are entering more data the accuracy should improve.

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Icons legend:
PW  Photographica World
PA  Photographica Auctionen
WL  WestLicht Auction
LP  LP Foto Auction
TK  Tamarkin Auction
CR  Christies Auction
SA  Special Auction Services
HK  Hake's Auction
EC  Everard & Company Auction
DN  Dave Nosek Price Guide
FA  Flints Auctions
CW  Chiswick Auctions
CB  Price added by CollectiBlend members
Photo  Personal collection image uploaded
accuracy  Value accuracy (low/medium/high)